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#31
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by tygre - Feb 10, 2026, 02:53 AMHi all!
Thanks for your replies. I found ClassEditor, it's really for documenting, but it shows public methods nicely. I'll explore more the different archives...
BTW, how do you share files with other computers? I could make Rumba work with the Samba server of my RPI, but not with my NAS. I'm currently using yftp, maybe there's better or a better way?
I also committed the very first version, which is really Journaler under a different name
Cheers!
Tygre
Thanks for your replies. I found ClassEditor, it's really for documenting, but it shows public methods nicely. I'll explore more the different archives...
BTW, how do you share files with other computers? I could make Rumba work with the Samba server of my RPI, but not with my NAS. I'm currently using yftp, maybe there's better or a better way?
I also committed the very first version, which is really Journaler under a different name
Cheers!
Tygre
#32
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by ZombiePhysicist - Feb 10, 2026, 01:51 AMI'm so old school I preferred having my window hell in TextEdit when I was doing my work. The integration and demotion of interface builder felt like it lost something. I liked that back in the day you didnt "need" project builder to get an app going.
#33
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by Rhetorica - Feb 09, 2026, 10:09 PMPB's integrated editor was indeed a novelty in 4.x. (Pro-tip: it does have syntax highlighting, called syntax "coloring"; it's just disabled by default because it was a newfangled feature for them kids at the time.)
It is most definitely not possible to run on 3.x though, because the whole thing was rewritten against the OpenStep specification. I don't think you can even run it side-by-side with 3.3 dev tools on 4.2, as it has strong opinions about how your project's header files should be organized.
The current IDE renaissance started several years later—first Java and Linux needed an IDE on par with Visual Studio, and then competitors like JetBrains emerged out of discontent with NetBeans and Eclipse. Notepad++ (and successors—SubEthaEdit and Sublime Text) arrived around the same period as a band-aid for dealing with second-class languages that were highly popular in the late 2000s, most notably PHP.
There are third-party development tools for NeXTSTEP, like Joy and ActiveDeveloper, but most (if not all) of them were designed around finding a niche, like rapid/realtime testing, and the most of the useful ones came with a hefty price tag. Realistically, the hackers of the day swore by Emacs, as the vi of the day was considerably less capable than modern vim.
It is most definitely not possible to run on 3.x though, because the whole thing was rewritten against the OpenStep specification. I don't think you can even run it side-by-side with 3.3 dev tools on 4.2, as it has strong opinions about how your project's header files should be organized.
The current IDE renaissance started several years later—first Java and Linux needed an IDE on par with Visual Studio, and then competitors like JetBrains emerged out of discontent with NetBeans and Eclipse. Notepad++ (and successors—SubEthaEdit and Sublime Text) arrived around the same period as a band-aid for dealing with second-class languages that were highly popular in the late 2000s, most notably PHP.
There are third-party development tools for NeXTSTEP, like Joy and ActiveDeveloper, but most (if not all) of them were designed around finding a niche, like rapid/realtime testing, and the most of the useful ones came with a hefty price tag. Realistically, the hackers of the day swore by Emacs, as the vi of the day was considerably less capable than modern vim.
#34
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by tygre - Feb 09, 2026, 03:11 PMHi and thank you for your answers, both of you!
Do you think that it'd be possible to use the OpenStep editor on NeXTStep?
Best,
Tygre
Do you think that it'd be possible to use the OpenStep editor on NeXTStep?
Best,
Tygre
#35
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by marvin - Feb 09, 2026, 09:57 AMNot totally sure, but think the editors of choice were Edit.app, vi, and Emacs.
#36
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by jeffburg - Feb 09, 2026, 07:47 AMOn OpenStep, the editor built into Project Builder is pretty good. But yeah, I was surprised to learn that in NextStep, Project Builder just opens Text Edit. I have not looked for other editors.
But when I was making my OpenStep apps, I used Previous (on my M1 Mac) or VirtualBox (on my Intel Mac) and I used NFS to edit the files right in place on the host Mac. That way I could also edit and compile in normal old-fashioned Xcode.
But when I was making my OpenStep apps, I used Previous (on my M1 Mac) or VirtualBox (on my Intel Mac) and I used NFS to edit the files right in place on the host Mac. That way I could also edit and compile in normal old-fashioned Xcode.
#37
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by tygre - Feb 09, 2026, 02:42 AMHi Jeffburg and Marvin!
Yes, some progress today: I downloaded and compiled Journaler successfully. Then, I duplicated it and started to work on my "NeXTModRadio".
(Yes, not a very original name!)
Is that okay if I follow up on my progress, and plenty more questions!, here?
My goal is to develop a program that can automatically download (Amiga) modules and play them on my NeXTStation.
I want to do that on my NeXT to learn more about it and how to use it: eat your own dog food!
Actually, I already have a question: for coding, are there better editors than the standard "Edit.app"?
Cheers!
Tygre
Yes, some progress today: I downloaded and compiled Journaler successfully. Then, I duplicated it and started to work on my "NeXTModRadio"
.(Yes, not a very original name!)
Is that okay if I follow up on my progress, and plenty more questions!, here?
My goal is to develop a program that can automatically download (Amiga) modules and play them on my NeXTStation.
I want to do that on my NeXT to learn more about it and how to use it: eat your own dog food!
Actually, I already have a question: for coding, are there better editors than the standard "Edit.app"?
Cheers!
Tygre
#38
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by jeffburg - Feb 09, 2026, 12:48 AMLet us know if you have any success. I would like to eventually get time to make a VNC server for OpenStep and capturing replicating mouse and keyboard input is one of the critical pieces.
#39
General Discussion / Thanks for re-enabling SSL
Last post by stepleton - Feb 05, 2026, 06:41 PMI'm sure it must have taken some effort, so I just wanted to say that it has been appreciated. I'm glad not to have to arrow back over to the beginning of the URL to change `https` to `http`. Thanks!
#40
Software / Re: Programmatically Controlli...
Last post by tygre - Feb 04, 2026, 01:01 AMThanks a lot, Marvin!